The general guideline out there now seems to be we don't know how much is too much so avoid alcohol during pregnancy.
I'm unsure of the definition of an alcoholic and can't seem to find it anywhere either.
This press release looks at baseline data from 2006 - has anything changed.
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I think you lot are making a mountain out of a mole hill. I have four children and I drank throughout all pregnancies and my kids are just fine, thank you very much. And my midwife made me drink a pint of Guinness every day to keep my iron up, she said, and make my breast milk healthy!
I mean, you lot should be concentrating on those terrible women who smoke, shouldn't you!??!
As a person who shared her midwifery care with women who are considered at risk... I have to say. A lot of those children did not turn out okay. And my eldest in his first year of school had seven classmates with FASD. Seven. That was mind numbing.
My husbands family has a few children who are fasd. It scared us to death.
I was told to pour myself a glass of red wine during labour. Sadly it aids my migraines along... so I never did. Though I do have a friend who has had a drink or two during her pregnancies, to no ill effect.
smoking and 'recreational' drug use... that stuff is scary!
ahem.
Stepping back as probably the only non-midwife in this group!
sigh... a girl can dream! =)
Back to the main idea. I don't think that Shannon is at much risk unless Bruce smokes. Now that video scared me! Babe stops all movement when mom was exposed to dads smoking... freaked me right out!
So, what's FASD?
Sarah, you leave me breathless with your admission! I think you must be teasing! Next you will tell us that you drunk buckets of coffee, and ate pounds of liver!
FAS stands for fetal alchol syndrome, dont know what the D stands for in Canada?
Smoking...bad for everyone.
OK, you guys, things are getting complicated. I was just acting but because my identity comes up, I don't think you can tell whether I'm being serious or not. Would you be adverse to have an option for people to comment as 'anonymous'. If that's OK by you, look at 'settings' and then 'commenting' and then change the setting we can come in as people other than ourselves.
LOL, I didnt think for one minute you would be drinking! Hopefully I have changed the settings.
Ahh, that's better. Now I can be rude and you wont know who it is.
If you get a post by 'anonymous' that is not relevant or inappropriate, you can always delete it. cheers Sarah
Ahhh In Canada... we are trying to lessen the impact of the 'labels'
D stands for disorder.
Like with Autism, we have Austism Spectrum Disorder as well as Aspergers... Not that I can get a definitive answer about either when it comes to my eldest! ugh. sorry end rant. School is starting soon and the second child is going too... I'm fretting!
ahem.
Sarah... you are too funny! I had doubts you were being serious too. Then again. I've been to the playground where the moms and dads are having a beer while watching the little ones play. Eventually it is told that two of them are pregnant....
I could have cried. Because the older siblings are FAS too. Poor kids don't have a chance! =(
I have something of interest to ask! raises hand and waits patiently.
Do your stores that sell alcohol have posters in regards to drinking during pregnancy? I am staring at the paper bag that our wine arrived home in. It has quite blatant warnings. I'll send along a photo if anyone is interested.
Just curious if it is the same sort of educational process elsewhere.
I'm a real drama queen which is why I love role play.
Had to check out a shop that sold alcohol,(well that's my excuse anyway) and in this part of NZ there is no obvious messages- health promotion material- around alcohol at all, let alone for a pregnant woman. Here we print terrible pics of what smoking does to you on the pks of ciggis though. And still they smoke...
I think....just don't drink alcohol, smoke, take illicit/recreational drugs, full stop! Our unit had a young lady of 17years, present to us at 3cm dilated, 26 weeks gestation, membranes intact with cord paplpable! And, her and her entorage "reacked" of weed! Absolutely disgusting! She was choppered straight down to Auckland, and apparently did not deliver on route! The babies are the ones I feel sorry for, they don't have a say at all do they?
I am not an LMC, but if I was, and if the mother admitted to me at booking that she has/had an alcohol problem, smoking issue and even family violence, I would discuss the risk factors to her and her baby, and point her in the right direction for help. Ultimately, she makes the choices - informed choices, that is, with the best information I can provide for her, and support her. In the end, for an optimal pregnancy, and start in life for her baby, she needs to be rid of the negativity in her life. Easier said than done. I had another young lady, who presented to us following physical abuse from her partner. She was kicked repeatedly in the abdomen, and head - after counselling referrals, blah, blah, she still went home after 2 days with us, knowing the risks. It's all well to throw these women the information, but what they do with it counts...anyway, I'm biter today - had a tough week..
Well then. I found the Provincial Liquor website dedicated to it.
There are even the television ads on it. =)
http://www.withchildwithoutalcohol.com/
again apologies. I have never figured out how to put a link in a comment!
Ohhhh Sarah.... great guru of blogger! ;-)
kerryn... I'm sorry you are having a lousy week! I remember that one of my midwives went through a month... where it looked like I was the only client who was going to get to keep their baby.
She tried to hide how sad she was about all the others.
=(
hope this coming week gets better for you!
It's all very well getting upset about women who smoke, drink etc despite you giving them a load of glossy leaflets and expecting them to do as you told tell them, and giving them a so-called choice. I don't have a choice - I am on the DPB, I'm a single mum, got 3 kids and 1 on the way. Taking 5 minutes out for a ciggie isn't a choice as far as I am concerned - it saves my sanity. And the other thing, its all very well you telling me to buy all these posh foods - I cant afford it - have you seen the price of cheese lately?!
I can tell you how to link to another web site in a comment but the html language does weird things here. So if you'd like to know, drop me an email and I'll send the little piece of html language that lets you do that - its very easy:
Sarahstewart07(at)gmail.com
Hey, pregnant Sarah on the DBP! Well, yeah, if a ciggie is your only vice to get through a miserable life, go right ahead and enjoy! As long as you're prepared for a very unwell baby, underweight, wont feed, development delays, who cares as long as you're ok! Who gives a hoot about the babys well being?
After all, the baby just appeared in your uterus, didn't it? and contraception? HA WHAT'S THAT AGAIN? Yeah, the price of food sux, why bring another poor innocent soul to bear it? But hey, you're giving this little one a great start, aren't you?
(Don't take offence everyone- I am acting here. I am actually a nice person! :-)
It's all very well for you to take the Micky. But I haven't got child care or easy transport to the supermarket, so I find its quicker and easier to nip down to McDonalds, and the kids eat all their burgers, whereas they don't the veggies I give them.
One thing I do believe though, is that we do have choices in the world, and, free will. We can make our lives better with loads of hard work. Just because this mum is on the DPB, that does not have to be forever. And if this mum is so stressed, and has to smoke, she shouldn't be pregnant again anyway?!? - because I read this as an unplanned pregnancy. It's called crossing your legs and taking some responsibility in your life, not relying on the system.
Her previous health providers, including her midwives, should have been more encouraging with contraception education, if she feels too stressed out to cope with kids!
God gave us legs! Women not too long ago, actually walked to their suppliers for food and necessities, in all sorts of weather..(LOL) Cars were actually a luxury not too long ago! Hey! the kids may actually enjoy some FRESH AIR instead of the smoke ridden stench in the house! (LOL) They may also get some stimulation, and exercise. Gentle exercise is good in pregnancy, and may refresh your stench filled lungs.
Here's a thought! what about making your own burgers at home!?
You'd most probably save money buying the ingredients, rather than paying over 2 bucks for a large fries! Make it a fun experience involving the children in the cooking. I do know that kids are interested in eating what they have helped prepare. You can get oven fries, which are not fried, or even cut the potatoes together and throw them in the oven! Cool! The older kids will see a sense of achievement...I'm sure!
Yeah...I don't have childcare either! I've recently moved to NZ with young children, from Melbourne, been sick all winter, doing 2 papers at the same time through Otago Polytech, started a new job involving shiftwork! I don't even have any friends!!! Yeah, life does suck! But get on with it for your childrens sake at least! Maybe I should take up smoking for some "rest"......No I'd rather spend my money elsewhere.....thankyou.
With a little exercise encouragement, it may well help in the control of obesity and diabetes in pregnancy that we're seeing a lot of nowadays.
Anyway...why leave it to Ronald McDonald to entertain your kids? Wouldn't you rather your children want to spend time with you than a stupid red clown?
LOL LOL LOL
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